Beauties and Beasts Topic
In days of olde when knights were bolde chivalry had its beginning
A chivalrous knight would right the treacherous wrongs
Fight the fights of honour and end all wrong full sinning
The knight on his steed his armour in need of a straight and healthy body
Would carry the flag for his country and king in chivalry neâer too shoddy.
In today's hustle and bustle with money to earn and chivalrous acts not a' plenty
The question begs to be asked of you all my friends
â Are acts of Chivalry only for 'The Old School' or 'The Most Gentry'?â
Topic from Shane The WCP
There has been talk in the past of women who want a Prince Charming. You know the old Fantasy of the knight in shining armour that rides up and sweeps the young maiden off of her feet. At one time women were drawn to the idea of a chivalrous man in their lives. But, are there any chivalrous men still around? If so, is it a good thing or is it detrimental to the way of life expressed now days? A man that opens doors for women, a man that always walks to the outside of a woman. Is the idea that a woman is to be held as a treasure gone completely away? The question I put forth to the panel is thisâ¦. Is chivalry dead?
Replies from the Beauty.
Chivalry, I donât believe will ever be dead. We donât want to confuse chivalry as simply opening doors or protecting a lady in distress. Chivalryâs definition seems to change with the times.
Chivalry, as I see it, includes caring, commitment, understanding, warmth, respect, humour, kindness, intelligence, integrity, and compassion. I think those are the intangible elements that women are looking for in her Knight in Shining Armour these days. Chivalry has taken on a whole new appearance as I view it.
Of course, every woman wants to feel secure, protected and loved. But, if she found a man with all of the qualities above, how could she not?
So, with all of this saidâ¦.Chivalry is very much alive and well. There are many Chivalrous men out there.
A New Beastie with a scientific slant on the new topic is
Our New Beasties Response
This perspective is uniquely his own, and one derived from advanced training in evolutionary biology and anthropology.
Chivalry is commonly accepted to have evolved as a
concept created in Medieval Times related to a code of
Knightly behavior and deriving from the French word
Chevalier. Although, I have no issue with the origin
of the word, I feel the concept derives from behavior
that long predates the 10th century and in fact has
biological roots predating the origin of the hominoid
Many species that exist in pack structures such as
lions exhibit protective behavior toward the young and
females when outside forces threaten the group. In
Hominoid evolution as increasing ex-uterine
development of the brain and plasticity of function
necessitated increasing gestation times and infant
dependency there was correspondingly increasing
periods of female incapacitation.
Species survival depended upon cooperative social
structure defining roles of behavior that are at the
root of the concept of chivalry. Behaviors like
protection of the weak, combat against outside threats
by the strongest and the ascendancy of a social
structure based on strength of arms, and the
preservation of the pack structure and protection from
For example, there were several lists written down
during the Middle Ages of chivalric codes. One example
code can be found in the book Chivalry by 19th century
French historian Leon Gautier:
â¢ Thou shalt believe all that the Church teaches, and
shalt observe all its directions.
â¢ Thou shalt defend the Church.
â¢ Thou shalt respect all weaknesses, and shalt
constitute thyself the defender of them.
â¢ Thou shalt love the country in which thou wast
â¢ Thou shalt not recoil before thine enemy.
â¢ Thou shalt make war against the Infidel without
cessation, and without mercy.
â¢ Thou shalt perform scrupulously thy feudal duties,
if they be not contrary to the laws of God.
â¢ Thou shalt never lie, and shall remain faithful to
thy pledged word.
â¢ Thou shalt be generous, and give largess to
â¢ Thou shalt be everywhere and always the champion of
the Right and the Good against Injustice and Evil.
At the essence, we have:
1. Preserve the pack structure and order.
2. Protect the weaker members with particular emphasis
on children and women.
3. Do not run away from this protective duty leaving
the pack to fend for itself from outside threats.
4. Your pack is better than another pack.
5. Resources such as food are shared with the weaker.
In conclusion, the concept of chivalry results from a
successful reproductive strategy for hominoids and
subsequent redefinition and explanation of this
strategy by Medieval authors in culturally relative
terms. This reproductive strategy predates hominoids
and was increasingly important to pursue as infant
dependency developed with increasing intelligence.
Because of the fundamental importance of this
strategy, it continues to underly our current social
structures such as government, countries, religions,
and codes of military service (drafts during war, for
example). Any other strategy would ignore fundamental
reproductive imperatives and is unlikely to be adapted
in the foreseeable future.
Chivalry is how monkeys make more monkeys, and at
the time this is written there are estimated to be 6,596,308,973
human monkeys as the result. It works.
Today we are only having the One Beauty in the main post with The New Beast. However All the Beauties Past and Present are invited to leave their response to the Topic in the comments section below.
Let me thank everyone above for their time and effort.
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